DoubleEagle68
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This was a great board and loved reading all comments and insights.
SEC & Big 10
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Agree Micron, that is why we discussed the fact the the NFL is watching this whole scenario with great interest. Right now almost 2/3 of its players do not come from the top 30 -- and the NFL intends to protect its investment -- if the colleges do not figure this out -- the NFL will and it will start by paying the 5 stars bonuses the colleges cannot match -- and then watch how quickly the entire landscape of college football deteriorates into chaos.
Ohdannyboy73
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I have read and listened to so many different things that I cannot keep anything staight anymore! From what I have absorbed, the best hope is the ACC tays together and joins forces with the PAC 12. Then be happy they will be in 3rd "best" Conference. The money being thrown around here is absolutely insane. Change isn't always better.
Eagle Esquire
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It wasn’t long ago at all that the B10, PAC 12 and ACC formed the alliance before B10 destroyed the PAC 10. You’re 100% right, there needs to a legally binding agreement with severe penalties for breaking it. Handshakes mean nothing in todays cutthroat college football world
Hate to say it, BUT BC did this to themselves. They had their chances to be so much more throughout the last 15 years. We’re now seeing it with Hafley. Afraid it’s too little too late. Back to back ACC title games in 07 and 08, then what do they do? FIRE THEIR COACH WHO PUT THEM THERE! All because the AD didn’t like him. Then hire somebody who wasn’t cut out for the job. After they fired Spaz following his 2-10 4th year, they hire another incompetent AND KEPT HIM FOR SEVEN PROGRAM DETERIORATING YEARS. He should have been fired after year 3, especially year 4 when he needed a non conference schedule of UMass, UConn, Buffalo and Wagner plus a late game comeback against NC State to get to 6-6. Think at one point he lost 12 ACC games in a row. Not to mention, failing to invest in the stadium and only recently upgrading facilities.
Now where are we? Hoping to luck out on some small probabilities. Hoping ND choosing ACC over independent and Big10 who just added one of their key rivals. 10% chance or less. Hoping ACC keeps Clemson, FSU and the others from leaving for the SEC and all the TV money. 10% chance or less. Hoping the Big Ten doesn’t also swoop in and raid. 30% chance or less. They have essentially no control over the situation which is clearly not in their favor. Boston TV market means nothing when less than 10% of the sets are tuning in for BC Rutgers
Really hope I’m wrong and don’t like being so negative with this but it ain’t looking good fellas
The problem is that you are not only right -- but even worse -- the folks in charge could care less -- all they seem to be interested in is charging over 80 grand to attend BC and having less Catholic students than are enrolled at TAMU. Whatever happened to educating the masses. St. Ignatius would roll over in his grave -- the only we survive is a new ADMIN takes over -- Hafley wins 10 games for 3 years in a row -- we do every thing to keep him -- we improve the stadium and tailgate experience -- we improve fan support home and away and become relevant in sense of being a team it means something to play -- chances of that happening are remote, but we have already lost out on all those other options-- and for those folks who are so confident it will go to the top 60 instead of the top 40, how much money do you want to bet on it? I feel much more sorry for Wake -- they only have a 30K stadium, but they regularly have 80% attendance and they have less than 5k students while we are frequently under 50% filled. So crappy team, poor fan support -- in a market where no one cares about college football -- reputation of not traveling to support the team -- being written about the most negatively of all the teams in the ACC -- actually being blamed for some of the demise --- that is what has happened with such incompetent leadership. I don't knowwhat you think of 74, but he has been screaming about this for over 40 years and all he has gotten for it is a bunch of ignore or dislikes with an admin that keeps shouting "you are wrong -- you are wrong -- the world is really flat" -- what pains me the most is that he has always been right and no one has ever taken the time to listen. We can start turning this around and maybe all this consolidation will take long enough that we will be seen in an entirely different light before we go into the realm of club football. I hope some young graduates will forget about our incompetent admin and begin soliciting funds to pay our players a reasonable stipend so that we don't have two or three players driving around in luxury cars and others who do not have enough funds to take a date out or buy a pizza. The world has changed, but some at BC are so old they not only cannot see the forest through the trees -- they can't see at all.
I am not on here to be kind -- I get my self-esteem from friends and family -- I call it as I see it and what I know is that you have been predicting these events would happen since I can remember and no one has ever bothered to listen. You bleed maroon and gold, but it isn't about you -- it's about BC and what you have been saying is right there in front of everyone if they had just opened their eyes. I signed up at Eagle Insider but haven't seen anything over there worth jumping in on. I hate when journalists will only congratulate but never point out weaknesses and their reward for all that -- the admin goes to a CUSE grad with the juicy stuff.
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AGPennyPacker
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I think that considering the volatile nature of these sites… it would be very wise for AJ to keep BC Maven alive… (even if just for us users to create our own blogs as we so often do) just in case that he “decides that it’s best he comes back”
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Ohdannyboy73
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Danny, It was very entertaining and everything AJ said is true -- but -- he did not cover one of the most important issues: Why would teams from the PAC 10 join the ACC along with schools like TCU, Houston, OK State, etc. Right now they are lobbying to join the BIG14 forming western division that will eventually play the champ of the midwest or eastern division. Yes, there will be some interdivisional games, but not all games are 1/2, 3/4, or coast to coast. For that they will get the BIG14 payoff. What do they get from the ACC -- yes, it has that contract until 2036, but as soon as it begins to renegotiate there might be a time where schools like Clemson can leave, if they are not careful. I didn't hear any reasons why it would be in the best interests of Oregon, for example, to join the ACC. Maybe, I just missed it, so let me know.
Moreover, if this merger happens it will be the first thing this new commish has made happen that has any consequence. But, in my heart of hearts, I am hoping and praying AJ's theory comes to be.
Moreover, if this merger happens it will be the first thing this new commish has made happen that has any consequence. But, in my heart of hearts, I am hoping and praying AJ's theory comes to be.
AGPennyPacker
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I instead believe that having this extensive traveling and time difference will eventually hurt the schools involved.
I would not be surprised if USC and UCLA will soon regret this move
kinda like when ND Hockey left the Hockey East to join a closer Big 10 Hockey
I would not be surprised if USC and UCLA will soon regret this move
kinda like when ND Hockey left the Hockey East to join a closer Big 10 Hockey
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Ohdannyboy73
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Perhaps, but its all about the $$$ and they got it!!!