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DoubleEagle68

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Ok, I just looked it up. BC's five year average was 34k.

It's a joke that ND has more fans in Boston than BC. I'd say that's a combination of winning football and deceptive marketing.

How a French school in the middle of a cornfield in Indiana co-opted Irish pride from the school founded by Irish Catholics in a bastion for Irish immigrants in Boston is amazing.
My dad was a big ND fan as he was from Ireland. He slowly switched as his 2 oldest sons went to BC. But he was somewhat perplexed at first when BC played ND.
 

DoubleEagle68

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Notre Dame does a much, much better job of marketing itself than BC. And it has never made the fatal mistake of adopting the philosophy that fine academics and superb athletic teams are a dichotomy. They have never lost sight of the fact that they need their elite sports team to sustain their image A couple of years ago, I had an interesting exchange with a Boston cop who works traffic at the BC games. He told me he hates BC and is an ND fan. Anticipating his answer, I asked him what was the reason behind his intense dislike of BC, and he cited, in so many words, our perceived "elitism." Now why he doesn't perceive ND as being elitist is anyone's guess; I just keep returning to the fact that ND has had and still has, marketing geniuses at the helm.
He's probably never been to ND and none of his children got accepted at BC.
 

CDB

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BAER, sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and confirm all doubts. Old proverb, but if the shoe fits . . .
 

Edmonds_Forever

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So you would say BC has some of the toughest standards which keeps them from being a consistent top 25 program?
The academic standards thing is what the school admins have used as an excuse for athletic shortcomings for decades. It’s a tired trope. There are good schools who also have football success (Michigan, Stanford, USC, Wake Forest).
Our old AD once said something like “everyone wants us to be Harvard Monday through Friday and Alabama on Saturday.”
For us alumni, many don’t see any reason why BC can’t be better academically AND athletically if the school decides it wants to. It’s just about convincing a disinterested university president. He’s a good man; a Godly man, but some here (myself included) would say he needs to step aside.
 
The academic standards thing is what the school admins have used as an excuse for athletic shortcomings for decades. It’s a tired trope. There are good schools who also have football success (Michigan, Stanford, USC, Wake Forest).
Our old AD once said something like “everyone wants us to be Harvard Monday through Friday and Alabama on Saturday.”
For us alumni, many don’t see any reason why BC can’t be better academically AND athletically if the school decides it wants to. It’s just about convincing a disinterested university president. He’s a good man; a Godly man, but some here (myself included) would say he needs to step aside.
Thank you for the insight!
 

DoubleEagle68

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Father Leahy's job is to maintain BC's academic excellence. I would hate to see BC become a Jock School. We are not going to have "The Tail wagging The Dog". Long Live Father Leahy!
 

DoubleEagle68

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And the grass, my daughter said he us passionate about the grass on campus 😀...
The grass is beautiful. When I was at BC, we had The Dust Bowl until our senior year. We cane back for our final year and they had grass and trees. Now the campus is so well landscaped! It even has stairs down to the lower campus. We had a muddy trail up the hill from the parking lot for us commuters.
 

Edmonds_Forever

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Father Leahy's job is to maintain BC's academic excellence. I would hate to see BC become a Jock School. We are not going to have "The Tail wagging The Dog". Long Live Father Leahy!
Maintain or improve? BC has been more or less stuck around #35 for a decade. We were #31 in 2011 and now we’re #36, so we’re getting slightly worse relative to other schools. I’d like to see BC in the top 25 nationally in academics and football. Why isn’t Father Leahy improving BC’s rankings?

I realize you and others can disagree with me on this next point (which is fine), I just don’t see how if guys on the football team have lower SAT scores how that affects the value of my degree or anyone else’s. It’s not like Notre Dame’s players are Rhodes Scholars, but their winning enhances the brand of the school, hand in hand with their academics.
 

CDB

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Siince BC has lost a little of its luster in terms of college ratings (down slightly from the low thirties to mid-thirties -- gone from the very top of graduating its athletes to slightly lower than it used to be -- we can see that we are not progressing in the highly competitive world of attractive superb student-athletes. There was a time not too long ago when we were making progress and not-maintaining. There is an old adage that a company, organization, program, etc. is like a piece of fruit -- it is either growing or it is rotting -- it never stays the same. So, after all this time working to improve our academic ratings, we are falling behind -- Duke, Wake, Va, North Carolina are ranked higher. Among the Jesuit schools, Georgetown and Holy Cross are ranked higher and among Catholic colleges, Notre Dame is ranked significantly higher than BC despite all that athletic success. BC has a very beautiful campus, while Holy Cross in located on the side of hill in Worchester. ND has a beautiful campus, but is located in a very unattractive city and its students have to travel all the way to Chicago to enjoy the same benefits that BC students have being so close to Boston and so many other highly rated colleges nearby. It's time to be honest in our assessment of how well we are doing in relation to others who are also working to build their educational institutions and also provide big time football for their fans It is obvious that believing improving our sports facilities and teams will cause us to lower our academic standards. Having bad teams has not helped to improve our ratings.

Ever to Excel isn't something you find in a fortune cookie -- it is our motto and it is time all involved with running BC get back to living it.
 
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