Mahogany Injury?

GoEagles99

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Reading on Twitter that something happened to Christian Mahogany and he is out for the year? Please tell me this isn't true.
 

Gasson 305

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FWIW, found this on Twitter from 13 hours ago:
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Saw Christian Mahogany walking out of morning workouts at Fish with no visible limp or brace on. Appears to have been a full participant in practice.

Just read AJ’s article this morning about Mahogany. BC cannot seem to catch a break
 

CDB

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The Mahogany injury points out BC's biggest weakness which do not seem to be getting resolved. We do NOT have backups for critical positions. Last year it was QB; this year it is still QB and offensive line. While I believe coach's philosophy of building thru recruiting makes sense, it still brings to question, why he would not seek to have backup for some key positions through the portal. If Phil or Zay or any other lineman gets hurt, we have to play many inexperienced players.

AJ just predicted we would win 7 or more games -- that is a possibility rather than a probability now.

Lest folks believe that BC is suffering more injuries than other programs, I challenge you to prove that as most programs lose players due to injuries.
 

NEDSH

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Rustemi was the backup center a couple of years ago. Maybe he should be at center and flip Kendall to guard. The success of the team will depend on the o-line's growth. All five will be new but that doesn't mean ineffective. The offense is only as good as the linemen usually. The fall camp should sort out who plays. Hope for the best.
 

micmon

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Obviously the news is not welcome either for Mahogany or the team. But if it had to happen, better now for both player and team than a week into the season.
 
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CDB

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I feel so bad for the kid as he was projected to be a very high draft pick and this injury will cost him tons unless he comes back and has a great injury-free 2023.

In terms of coaching -- even with all his apparent weaknesses, DAZ always had linemen prepared to take over -- we are gong into season three of the current regime. Our coaches have shown they can recruit talented players -- now it is time for them to show that they have recruited depth and, even with injuries to key players, the backups are ready to step up.

When I attended a Michigan - Michigan State game back when they were both highly ranked -- 7 players were injured and had to be carried off of the field -- the next day there was little mention of the injuries in the local sports pages -- injuries are part of a very violent sport and that is why there are so many scholarships granted. If Dad could win 6-7 games with 65-70 ranked recruiting rankings, we should now be able to do better.

I am a fan of this coaching staff, but it is time for them to show they can coach up these very good players.
 

micmon

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Outcomes are good these days with ACL. Here's a quote from a NIH study on NFL players with ACL injuries:

All offensive linemen successfully returned to play the season after injury. No difference existed in number of seasons, total number of games played, mean number of games played, or mean number of games started per season when offensive linemen who RTS after ACL reconstruction were compared with matched controls (all P > .05).

 

AGPennyPacker

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The Mahogany injury points out BC's biggest weakness which do not seem to be getting resolved. We do NOT have backups for critical positions. Last year it was QB; this year it is still QB and offensive line. While I believe coach's philosophy of building thru recruiting makes sense, it still brings to question, why he would not seek to have backup for some key positions through the portal. If Phil or Zay or any other lineman gets hurt, we have to play many inexperienced players.
I’m not sure I agree on this one
BC has recruited exceptionally well on the OL in the past 4-5 years so we do have the roster depth….
It’s now up to the coaches to develop these highly sought after kids… and I hope they do…
 

CDB

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Penny, I agree that BC has great recruits, but last year our offensive line (slated to be one of the best in the country) was not good. Since they had all that talent, we can only surmise that they were not coached correctly. This coaching staff still needs to prove it can develop these kids -- we all lose making fun of DAZ, but it would be hard to argue that he didn't develop linemen at BC -- that is why is he now doing it at TAMU.

As to our discussion on recovery time for injuries like ALC (I don't even want to discuss CTE that has already taken the lives of 3 guys I played with) -- I had to have 3 operations on the same knee before the revision surgery finally was done correctly. All three surgeons were highly, highly rated. Only one fixed my knee. But all told me the same thing -- and I say this as one who had to ice his knee for over a year to make the swelling go down to acceptable levels of discomfort -- "stop playing tennis, stop jogging, stop playing pickup basketball games -- and try golf out to see if you can do it without discomfort in your knee. If you do not want to be back here every five years, changed your aerobic exercise to something like either a recumbent bike or walking (not jogging or running) on a treadmill or walking outside. If you do more than that, you will wear out the apparatus and be back for a replacement in about five years." It's been 10 years since the third surgery (one of the most painful healing experiences of my life), but the knee is going fine -- but the pain is still very much there. Yes, these kids can get back on the field, but it is a matter of how fast those fast-twitch muscles will react with a foreign apparatus inside the knee. Christian is known for his excellent footwork and much of that is based on speed and the ability to adjust super quickly -- hopefully, he will come back just as good or better than he was -- but there is no guarantee. I remember a talk I heard locally when Bill Bates was a defensive back for the Dallas Cowboys (we all most first remember him as the Tennessee back that Herschel Walker ran over in a game between Tennessee and Georgia). Bates was discussing fast-twitch speed and how he worked for almost 2 years to increase that speed and that allowed him to improve his overall-speed almost .8 of a second -- that may not sound like much but it allowed Bates to play for many years as a backup DB for the Cowboys before he decided to retire. Point is that NFL players have a tremendous ability to start, stop, change directions, and regain full speed in almost a blink of an eye. We all assume that Phil is back to a precision passer after breaking his wrist, but that is never a given as the wrist is so important to the touch a QB needs to throw the ball the correct distance to the receiver. It is likely he will continue to do so, but not a given. The whole point of my argument is that an athlete not only has to heal quickly, he also has to regain those abilities that help him to stand out from the pack -- and regaining those abilities is never a given.

As to our coaches, injuries are always part of the game and to be expected -- last year we did not have adequate replacements for injured players -- if the same thing happens this year -- during the third year of a coaching staff -- not having adequate backup players is unacceptable. Players come and go and we appreciate their abilities and devotion to BC -- but they move on. While we do not expect BC to win 10 or more games each year, we do expect them to win the majority of their games each year and every two to three years to have an exceptional season -- that is what good coaching staffs do -- that is what former BC coaching staffs did -- DAZ never was able to do that -- although he normally won about half his games -- that is why we wanted him out -- he could never achieve above that -- he gave us excuse after excuse -- there comes time for every coaching staff to be judged by performance and not excuses. Losing a player like Christian is a big loss, but coaches have had time to prepare, if we lose Phil again, coaches have had time to prepare -- this season is the season that will show us how effective this coaching staff is -- yes, recruiting is very important -- you can't win without good players -- but, even more important is coaching 'em up.
 
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