Alumni Stadium

DoubleEagle68

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So what do we want BC to do to improve BC's Football stadium and the Fan Experience?

One interesting website is the Stadium Journey website. It gives an outsider's view on the stadium and fan experience, including parking, tailgating, food, etc.

 

Max Basner

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Yeah, when you travel around and see other stadiums, one thing about Alumni stands out: students can literally walk to the stadium in minutes. So many stadiums are car rides (UConn says hello, as do actual D1 programs, as well) away from the campus...or at the very least, isolated on 'athletics campuses'.

BC provides the old-time quaint feel with great sightlines.
 

CDB

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UCONN is not a typical situation -- they built a stadium an hour away from the school -- because some politicians believed they would lure the Patriots away -- they paid tons of money for a coach at a time when the state was broke -- and they already had the advantages of two basketball programs that were top 10. BC tried the Foxboro location for games they expected to sellout (e.g. Notre Dame, etc. and hasn't returned to it). There are tons of colleges that have the great stadiums with tons of tradition on campus. BC's stadium is not fan-friendly. Folks go back to football games to reunite (otherwise the games are available on the ACC network) -- mostly at tailgates -- at BC there is almost not enough time to set up the tailgate before it is time to be seated -- causing a constant situation where fans show up after the opening kickoff -- and where else do you have to leave and go to another building to use the bathroom -- often losing 10-15 minutes or more to do so, SMU, TCU and a score of others have rebuilt their stadiums to both keep the traditional feel of the stadium and still update the stadiums to make the fan experience a better one. BC needs to do the same -- Why can't an upgraded or new stadium maintain tradition? We are not a poor school -- we can easily fund the new stadium -- all we need is an advocate from the administration that will give the go ahead. It is time.
 

DoubleEagle68

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UCONN is not a typical situation -- they built a stadium an hour away from the school -- because some politicians believed they would lure the Patriots away -- they paid tons of money for a coach at a time when the state was broke -- and they already had the advantages of two basketball programs that were top 10. BC tried the Foxboro location for games they expected to sellout (e.g. Notre Dame, etc. and hasn't returned to it). There are tons of colleges that have the great stadiums with tons of tradition on campus. BC's stadium is not fan-friendly. Folks go back to football games to reunite (otherwise the games are available on the ACC network) -- mostly at tailgates -- at BC there is almost not enough time to set up the tailgate before it is time to be seated -- causing a constant situation where fans show up after the opening kickoff -- and where else do you have to leave and go to another building to use the bathroom -- often losing 10-15 minutes or more to do so, SMU, TCU and a score of others have rebuilt their stadiums to both keep the traditional feel of the stadium and still update the stadiums to make the fan experience a better one. BC needs to do the same -- Why can't an upgraded or new stadium maintain tradition? We are not a poor school -- we can easily fund the new stadium -- all we need is an advocate from the administration that will give the go ahead. It is time.
There aren't many 40,000-plus stadiums on campus. Those that are, most likely are on a huge area on the edge of the campus, like Notre Dame, USC, Clemson etc. The majority are a bus ride away from the campus, like UVA, Wake, UNC, NC-State, UCLA, etc. BC has no room on campus for a stadium with a vast area for parking and tailgating. I recall the walk from the hotel to ND's stadium must have been a quarter of a mile through the parking lot.

As for facilities, the Rose Bowl and Aloha Bowl built a large fenced in area circling the stadium for food vendors and facility entrances. BC needs to find a way to expand their stadium area for added facilities with easier access and locations.

I would hate to lose the walk from the Upper Campus down the Million Dollar stairs to the stadium. Why at Clemson, the team has to get in a Bus to touch the Rock and run down the hill. UCLA has to travel along with the "Little Old Lady" to Pasadena for their games. What better place for Families to be able to enjoy the BC campus, rather than a massive parking lot designed for the alumni to drink and socialize.

Let's work with what we got. It's not perfect but it's our stadium and our history.
 

CDB

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We could aways do what they did at Michigan (Big House) -- standing outside it is only a couple of stories high and you wonder where they will fit all those people and then you go inside and discover the stadium has been hollowed out and dug down deep -- BC might be able to do that on Campus -- whenever I have visited a school, its stadium has been on campus.
 

DoubleEagle68

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We don't have the open area for parking & Tailgating unless we fill in the Reservoir. Ever see the Penn State stadium rising way above the surrounding farms!
 

DoubleEagle68

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We could aways do what they did at Michigan (Big House) -- standing outside it is only a couple of stories high and you wonder where they will fit all those people and then you go inside and discover the stadium has been hollowed out and dug down deep -- BC might be able to do that on Campus -- whenever I have visited a school, its stadium has been on campus.
 

CDB

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Right now we are discussing logistics -- lets le3ave that to the experts on logistics -- we have tons of space to park cars on all our campuses and we can have shuttles to get those folks to the game -- we can dig down or go up -- the big question is can we improve or replace the present stadium and still meet the needs or our fan base whether practical or aesthetic -- after we see what can be done, we can argue out the details or decide that we can or cannot do what needs to be done.
 

DoubleEagle68

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Is Wake "on campus"? UVA, UNC, NC State, UCLA, U-Hawaii, USC, Miami? If being on campus is miles from the Quads and the academic buildings and require a bus ride to get to the far reaches of the university-owned property, We don't have that land.
 

CDB

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But DE, why are you assuming that if BC improves or builds a new stadium it will mean it will mean it will have to be built off campus? I have visited several schools who have built or improved stadiums on campus -- for example, the reason we can no longer see Touchdown Jesus on the ND Library is that they increased and improved the stadium -- 74 has consistently brought up TCU's stadium -- and when my son was getting his masters at TAMU, they increased the stadium by shutting down on of the end zone sections and added tons of seats.

Has a study been done that indicates that Alumni cannot be improved or another stadium be built on campus? I am not aware of any, but post here if you know something. Thanks. And speaking of the students, many colleges require that all full-time students purchase a ticket pass to all major sports games in order to attend. I think this may have something to do with building up the fan base in the long haul. Might not be a bad idea for BC????
 

DoubleEagle68

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Can you take the TCU stadium and place it on a BC campus map? Let's see what would have to be done?

Also if all students had to pay an Athletic Team Fee, I would expect to be guaranteed a seat at all 6 football games, as well as all basketball, hockey and basketball and baseball games.
 

DoubleEagle68

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In my senior year, BC planted a few dozen saplings in the Dust Bowl. Now many years later, I returned on a Campus Tour with a nephew. I was astounded to see how beautiful the Dust Bowl was and the students were perched up in trees that were saplings I my day.

Now I propose a culture change for BC football fans. Instead of wanting more parking lot area for tailgating. Meet your friends on campus and be like the students who enjoy their campus. Just don't sit in the trees. We have a beautiful campus. Come and enjoy! It's must better than a dirty old parking lot. You can get there as early as you want and get to the stadium before kickoff.

As for the stadium facilities, it's funny it was never an issue in my younger days. It seems to be getting to be more an issue in my geezer years. I would like to see Kraft walk the stadium and see how far and few the facilities are at Alumni.
 
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CDB

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DE, I think you are concerned that improvements cannot be made to either the tailgating or stadium experience without sacrificing something you believe is not worth sacrificing -- this is were we disagree -- I strongly believe all of your concerns can and should be met (within what is fair and reasonable). Tailgating is another name for a way to meet up with those you knew in college -- at Tennessee, it is the traditional tailgate experience that folks discuss on these boards -- folks bring in RVs and set up days before and after the game -- AT Texas A&M, there is some of that, but folks meet up at their favorite haunts around the town. If tailgates are set up early enough, they do not have to be located in the parking lots around the stadium. I never saw Alumni Stadium and beautiful in the same sentence. It was warmer than Harvard or the Yale bowl -- a least the benches were made out of wood. Why can't an architect design a redo or a new stadium that both compliments the beauty of the campus and makes the experience more enjoyable and something folks will want to experience -- why can't we have the most beautiful college stadium any where -- and why can't it have the features that will sell the program to perspective athletes. This is very doable and does not require and asphalt jungle type of solution. As far as tailgating -- it doesn't matter where it is located -- what matters is that you need enough time for it to work and for the folks to meet and greet -- either before and/or after the game -- this could be done anywhere -- folks do not have to park in a lot near the stadium -- most all colleges have people mover busses that transport folks around campus. There just isn't sufficient time to tailgate and show up to the game on time.

The problem is that right now the stadium experience is wanting -- it needs improvements or replacement -- and the meet and greet is a hit or miss. When you go on campus with a grandson or close relative -- taking that person to a BC football game should be an experience you both will treasure. Right now it may or may not be.
 
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